What to Say
So many times questions are asked about rape conception such as “what if the baby looks like the rapist” and we are struck with fear that we won’t have a compassionate answer. It would seem that society has put in our minds what women would and should feel about babies conceived in rape. But through my research I’ve found that women pregnant by rape do not think the way the general public thinks. Even those who previously thought they would abort find themselves feeling differently about the innocent baby inside them.
I hope that the following questions/statements and answers will serve to aid everyone is the discussion of rape conception and the value of life.
A woman couldn’t possibly want to give birth to a rapist’s baby.
Isn’t that child hers too? What are you telling her about HER baby? Is her child garbage?
Is her child different from other humans made in the image of God? Did God somehow NOT make this child?
The gene pool of a rapist will continue the criminal line.
In the history of the world there have been enough rape conceived persons born that possibly nearly all people will have a rapist in their heritage. Should we kill all humans since the time of that first rape pregnancy?
Rapists run free but innocent babies are killed. Where is the justice in that?
We need to have that exception for abortion to allow other babies to be saved.
55 million babies have been reported to have been desetroyed since Roe v Wade. The exception for rape was implemented for legal abortion yet only 1% of these 55 million are rape/incest abortions. The exception has opened the door so that all abortions can be legal. If rape/incest abortions were made illegal then ALL legal abortions would cease.If life is valuable then all babies are valuable.
Rape conception is rare.
The only rare thing about rape conception is that people rarely speak up. I have found that there are far more rape conceptions than people will admit because of society’s shame put on them. So many women and children come to me after I’ve spoken publicly and tell me they too are in that category but have NEVER told anyone.
Abortion is the best thing for women who are pregnant from rape.
Women don’t deserve to be mothers of a dead baby after being traumatized with rape. Abortion traumatizes a woman in the exact area she was traumatized in rape. Women do not regret giving life but they do regret killing their innocent baby. One woman told me that she was not able to have any other children except her aborted rape baby. Regret is the only thing she was left with. Do women deserve that? Listen to them and rethink the ongoing rhetoric and justification of rape abortion. See actual testimonies here.
The woman couldn’t possibly stand to have a child that looks like the rapist. It would remind her of the rape everyday.
Women are able to distinguish an innocent baby from a rapist. If a husband brutally raped his wife could she kill the 3 year old in the morning that looks exactly like his father? Of course not.One woman, Misty Ramshur, told me that she could not see the rapist when she looked at her biracial baby. She saw herself. Another woman described her daughter this way, ” My beautiful daughter looks just like her father” How can this be. Women are smarter and stronger than society gives them credit. Liz Carl shares that comment each time she speaks publicly on having a biracial baby from rape. She loves her child and was a hero placing him into the arms of a couple who wanted a family. She sees the gift of God and is reminded that God can make great things out of our pain. She can also be a hero and place the child for adoption and never have to see the child.
It’s not a baby but just tissue.
Aren’t we all “just tissue”? Our DNA begins at conception. Persons conceived in rape are no different.
“By all the criteria of modern molecular biology, life is present from the moment of conception.”
(Professor Hymie Gordon – Mayo Clinic) More info here.
AZ RTL stated In the debate about abortion one simple fact has been obscured by rhetoric and unimaginable skepticism,
“every human being’s existence begins at conception.”
Even abortion defenders admit truth:
“Perhaps the most straightforward relation between you and me on the one hand and every human fetus from conception onward on the other is this: All are living members of the same species, homo sapiens. A human fetus, after all, is simply a human being at a very early stage in his or her development.”
(David Boonin, A Defense of Abortion, Cambridge University Press: New York, p. 20)
People – even intelligent people- know that life begins at conception and life inside a human is a human person. So even those who advocate abortion as David Boonin, know it is not “just tissue”
We don’t have fetus parties do we? But even people who say it’s just tissue celebrate at a baby shower if that baby is “wanted.”
Only babies that are wanted should come into the world.
Babies ARE wanted. There are plenty of families wanting babies that can’t find any child to adopt. 55 million could have found a home that wanted them. Pauline is a mother of a teen who was conceived in rape. Her son is disabled in almost every since of the word. Is that child wanted? Absolutely and even by a man that is NOT his father. Pauline’s husband and 5 other children love this son conceived in rape. “He is the joy of our lives” says his “daddy”. Click here to discover where every baby is wanted and loved.
Who are we to say who is wanted and not wanted? Have you ever met someone who didn’t want you around? Should you be killed because someone doesn’t want you?
The man who adopted me and loved me is called Daddy. My Daddy was a WWII Marine veteran that stood next to the men at Iwo Gima who raised that famous flag. Did he deserve to have a family? Did he think he somehow had gotten a defective “product”? Did my parents see me as less human than other babies? Absolutely NOT. My dad thanked my birthmother for giving him such a precious gift.
We as Americans are tolerant and an equal opportunity country- fair and just.
550, 000(reported) children have been destroyed solely on the basis of the crime their father committed. Prejudice is deemed as evil but the greatest injustice remains. Innocent babies are treated like garbage and thrown away being called “products” of rape. Using that term in itself is prejudice. NO one else is called a product of a loving marriage or a wild night or the back seat of a car. To call someone a product suggests that the “product” is disposable. Language has changed over the years in America to be sensitive to certain people groups yet we still call persons of rape conception “products”. We are NOT products!
What we say:
Women shouldn’t be forced to abort.
What we mean:
The morning after pill is given to women right after they are raped to eliminate that human ever having a chance at life. We do force women to abort in cases of rape even with the soft persuasion of compassion. Not forcing a mother of rape or fetal abnormalities to see her child pushes them to think they are less human than others. Insulting the child forces a woman to make a choice that is NOT in her heart. She is pressured by society and family to kill her baby.My own mother was pushed to end my life by her mother but she fought for my life. Only with the help of someone who was 100% pro life was I able to live.
Young girls are forced to abort so that the incestuous perpetrator cannot be prosecuted. Evidence is destroyed leaving the girl vulnerable to continued attacks. Where is the justice in this?
Being pregnant from rape will ruin a woman’s life.
Many women have been given new life after discovering they are pregnant. Lianna conceived at 12 and gave birth at 13. She said that she got a new life with the life of her baby. While she was suicidal about the rape the pregnancy and the hope of a new life literally gave her hope for her own future.Women have been suicidal after aborting rape babies. Abortion of rape babies has ruined lives but giving birth to them has not.
What is said:
Lots of talk about what is best for women in cases of rape.
No one is asking the women or children of rape conception what they feel and want. Out of sight out of mind and the false opinions continue. Even in the case of rape/incest abortion harms women and may even result in sterility and/or suicide.
What is said:
I’m 100% pro life but I think a woman should have the choice in case of rape.
100% is 100%. There is no exception. 99% leaves room for 1% in cases of rape/incest that is pro choice for abortion and no different than a pro choice person choosing which child should die. Choice for death in pregnancy is still pro choice for death.
“We must save some even if we have to have exceptions” We do not have to have exceptions and it is proven that giving the exception has not ended abortion. When will we stop allowing all babies to be killed by propping the abortion door open with the rape child. 38 years of doing it that way and abortions continue increasing.
Now is the time to follow the good shepherd’s example. Leave the 99 and save the 1. Then all will be safe.
God is the author of all life without exceptions.And what God has joined let no man put asunder? Has God not joined the fibers of a baby? You knit me in my mother’s womb David says. Shall we tear it apart? God says that children are a blessing. Shall we turn this gift away because we don’t like how it was “delivered?” The greatest gift God could give humans is the gift of life. What does He feel when we throw it literally in the garbage? How would you feel if you gave a gift to someone and they did that? Imagine what God is feeling.
Everyone loves a victorious story. Giving life and watching that life live and give life again is spectacular. But death is never a joy.
Now is the time for women and children of rape conception to be heard. Will you listen??
Roe Vs Wade Made Abortion Legal But Roe Has No Clothes
The problem is, Roe vs. Wade is actually built on the claim that there’s no way to say for certain whether or not abortion kills because no one can say for certain when life begins. Justice Harry Blackmun, who authored the majority opinion, wrote:
“The judiciary, at this point in the development of man’s knowledge, is not in a position to… resolve the difficult question of when life begins… since those trained in the respective disciplines of medicine, philosophy, and theology are unable to arrive at any consensus.” (source: Roe v. Wade, 410 U.S. 113 (1973).
“Human development begins at fertilization, the process during which a male gamete or sperm (spermatozoo developmentn) unites with a female gamete or oocyte (ovum) to form a single cell called a zygote. This highly specialized, totipotent cell marked the beginning of each of us as a unique individual.”
“A zygote is the beginning of a new human being (i.e., an embryo).”
Source: Keith L. Moore, The Developing Human: Clinically Oriented Embryology, 7th edition. Philadelphia, PA: Saunders, 2003. pp. 16, 2.
“Development begins with fertilization, the process by which the male gamete, the sperm, and the femal gamete, the oocyte, unite to give rise to a zygote.”
Source: T.W. Sadler, Langman’s Medical Embryology, 10th edition. Philadelphia, PA: Lippincott Williams & Wilkins, 2006. p. 11.
“[The zygote], formed by the union of an oocyte and a sperm, is the beginning of a new human being.”
Source: Keith L. Moore, Before We Are Born: Essentials of Embryology, 7th edition. Philadelphia, PA: Saunders, 2008. p. 2.
“Although life is a continuous process, fertilization (which, incidentally, is not a ‘moment’) is a critical landmark because, under ordinary circumstances, a new genetically distinct human organism is formed when the chromosomes of the male and female pronuclei blend in the oocyte.”
Source: Ronan O’Rahilly and Fabiola Müller, Human Embryology and Teratology, 3rd edition. New York: Wiley-Liss, 2001. p. 8.
“The two cells gradually and gracefully become one. This is the moment of conception, when an individual’s unique set of DNA is created, a human signature that never existed before and will never be repeated.”
Source: In the Womb, National Geographic, 2005.
“Biologically speaking, human development begins at fertilization.”
The Biology of Prenatal Develpment, National Geographic, 2006.
As if those were not enough, here’s some icing for your cake. In 1981, a United States Senate Judiciary Subcommittee received the following testimony from a collection of medical experts (Subcommittee on Separation of Powers to Senate Judiciary Committee S-158, Report, 97th Congress, 1st Session, 1981):
“It is incorrect to say that biological data cannot be decisive…It is scientifically correct to say that an individual human life begins at conception.” Professor Micheline Matthews-Roth. Harvard University Medical School.
The official Senate report reached this conclusion:
Physicians, biologists, and other scientists agree that conception marks the beginning of the life of a human being – a being that is alive and is a member of the human species. There is overwhelming agreement on this point in countless medical, biological, and scientific writings. (Source: Report, Subcommittee on Separation of Powers to Senate Judiciary Committee S-158, 97th Congress, 1st Session 1981, 7.)
So, if medical science tells us that the Roe v. Wade decision is false and pro-abortion activists like former Planned Parenthood President, Faye Wattleton, know and agree that abortions ends the life of a human being, some questions are begging to be asked: Why is Roe v. Wade still something that we use to justify the murder of 1.4 million babies every year? And why is abortion even an issue at all?
Bottom line: No one’s “right” to choice EVER trumps another individual’s Right to Life. Re-educate yourself, then re-educate those around you. It’s time for responsible, intelligent Americans to wake up, smell the blood-stained coffee of the reality that is this culture which has been created by our our ignorance and indifference and start to change it! It is our responsibility to shine the light of truth into the darkness of delusion and work to abolish the abomination that is abortion once and for all.
-Andy, The Abolitionist
My Body My Rights-A Woman’s Right to Choose
The Right to Life > The Right to Liberty > The Right to the Pursuit of Happiness
by The Abolitionist Society
In their wisdom (which is lacking today), the writers and signers of the Declaration of Independence listed three of the inalienable rights: Life, Liberty and the Pursuit of Happiness. These Rights were listed in that order for a very logical reason. It is impossible for someone to pursue happiness without the right to liberty and it is impossible to have any rights without the right to life. Thus, the Right to Life is the foundational and the greatest of all Rights. Since that is the case, not only is it un-American, but it should also be illegal to terminate the life of another human being.
However, in the two-plus-two-makes-five society in which we now live it is not only accepted, but encouraged to put one’s own liberty and/or pursuit of happiness ahead of the life of another individual, all in the name of “choice”.
In order to justify their murderous choice, some say, “Well, if I have this baby, my life will be messed up and stuff because I’ll have to…like…take care of it and stuff. So, it’s really about my right to life.” By doing so, they create another fallacious reality to appease their conscience once they realize the fallacy of their previous position. Delusion begets more delusion. The abolition of abortion does not imply that the child is more valuable than the mother. Rather, it recognizes that the child’s right to not be killed is greater and more fundamental than the woman’s right not to be pregnant. The same can be said about an individual’s right to liberty being greater than another’s right to pursue their happiness. This is precisely why slavery was correctly abolished. Life is the foundation of all of the Rights that we possess. If we cannot acknowledge that truth than all of our other rights will be taken away from us.
Pro lifers Are People Who Bomb Clinics
by The Abolitionist Society
The next time you hear some defender of the practice of human abortion claim that all pro-lifers are volatile and violent fundamentalists bent on bombing abortion clinics…
remember Linda Meek.
Who is Linda Meek?
Linda Meek is the former director of Reproductive Services of Tulsa. We discussed the two doctors that perform abortions at Reproductive Services of Tulsa in a previous post.
Linda Meek was charged on September 1, 2010 “with intentionally providing ‘false and misleading information’ that a bomb had been placed in a trash can at Reproductive Services, which provides abortions among its services.” She pleaded guilty to this charge on October 7, 2010. We quote her statement in which she pleads guilty:
“I, Linda Meek, purchased an ‘egg timer’ at a local department store located here in the Northern District of Oklahoma. Subsequently, on August 13, 2010, I brought the egg timer to my place of employment, which is the Reproductive Services of Tulsa, Northern District of Oklahoma. I then set the egg timer, which created a ticking sound.
“I then placed the ticking egg timer in my trash can to create the impression or appearance there was a bomb in my trash can. I then contacted law enforcement authorities and told them there was a bomb in my trash can. My place of employment was evacuated and law enforcement authorities treated the situation as if there actually was a bomb in my trash can. When I conveyed the bomb threat to law enforcement authorities, I knew the information was false in that there was no bomb in my trash can, only a ticking egg timer.”
Her Reasons for the Hoax
The article in the Tulsa World tried to explain why she did it, but their explanation was cryptic at best. A cursory reading of the article would leave you with the impression that she was just mentally ill. I quote from the Tulsa World:
“Meek is to receive mental health treatment while on probation. She could receive as much as five years in prison if her probation is revoked.
An evaluation conducted by licensed psychologist Curtis Grundy and filed with the court states that by December 2009 Meek was feeling pressure because of the responsibilities attached to grant writing as well as ‘limited resources, occasional protestors and the controversial nature of the work.’
By February 2010 the report says Meek felt unbearable stress, which prompted her to write herself ‘threatening letters.’
…According to the report, Meek submitted the false information in order to receive help from her supervisors and corporate office without appearing ineffective or incompetent.”
Analyzing This Incident
In this concluding section I want to take a closer look at what the psych evaluations said regarding why she fabricated a bomb threat against her own clinic.
“…by December 2009 Meek was feeling pressure because of the responsibilities attached to grant writing as well as ‘limited resources, occasional protestors and the controversial nature of the work.’”
Apparently a major role Meek played was writing grant proposals. This was necessary, seeing as Reproductive Services is a non-profit. This bit of information also indicates that the clinic had limited resources. Meek believed that faking a bomb-threat on her own clinic would alleviate the pressures of grant writing and limited resources. Why would a fake bomb-threat make her job easier?
“By February 2010 the report says Meek felt unbearable stress, which prompted her to write herself ‘threatening letters.’”
Meek’s heightened levels of stress not only led to her fake bomb-threat, but it also led to her writing herself threatening letters. I read that the first time and thought that she was literally writing herself angry letters. I think it’s closer to Meek writing letters to herself, posing as a crazy pro-life activist who wants to kill her or do something violent. Interesting way to cope with stress? Or does someone threatening her life help her with grant writing and the dilemma of limited resources?
“According to the report, Meek submitted the false information in order to receive help from her supervisors and corporate office without appearing ineffective or incompetent.”
Finally, the article says that she did these things so she would get help without acting like she needed it. I don’t know how much sense that makes. It sounds more like she wanted to get the grants funded and the resources to alleviate her stress and not appear incompetent to her higher-ups. Nevertheless, when a pro-choicer throws out a claim about bombing abortion clinics, remind them of Linda Meek. You might also point out that there wasn’t a single hoax device used that appeared to be a threat until 2002 and that between 2002 and 2009 there were 148 of these hoaxes. Peculiarly, 2001 was the last year there was a recorded incident of an abortion clinic being bombed.
Abortion Is Safe and Needed
Pro abortionists believe that legal abortion is safe and if abortion wasn’t legal women would be dying in “back alleys”. The fact is more women die now than before abortion was legal.
These have been grossly under-reported. The expose’ on this is detailed in Lime 5 published by Life Dynamics. The author and his staff have verified 23 deaths from induced abortion in 1992-93. All were reported to state agencies. There is documentation from state health departments that 18 were reported to the Federal Center for Disease Control. However, the official report of the CDC listed only 2 deaths. “At Life Dynamics we knew abortion complications were grotesquely under-reported, but attributed it to garden-variety bureaucratic incompetence.” But after continuing research, they documented “that the flawed abortion data from the CDC was not from ineptitude but of dishonesty and manipulation” after finding that “a large percentage of CDC employees had direct ties to the abortion industry,” they retitled the CDC to stand for “Center for Damage Control” — “The CDC doesn’t oversee abortion, it justifies it.” M. Crutcher, Lime 5-Exploited by Choice, Genesis Pub., Chapter 4, “Cooking the Books,” p. 135.
The claim that relevant statistics can be collected from the place where the abortion was performed “is little short of science fiction.”
“Complications following abortions performed in free-standing clinics is one of the most frequent gynecologic emergencies . . . encountered. Even life-endangering complications rarely come to the attention of the physician who performed the abortion unless the incident entails litigation. The statistics presented by Cates represent substantial under- reporting and disregard women’s reluctance to return to a clinic, where, in their mind, they received inadequate treatment.” L. Iffy, “Second Trimester Abortions,” JAMA, vol. 249, no. 5, Feb. 4, 1983, p. 588.
“One sequel to abortion can be a killer. This is pelvic abscess, almost always from a perforation of the uterus and sometimes also of the bowel,” said two professors from UCLA, in reporting on four such cases. C. Gassner & C. Ballard, Amer. Jour. OB/GYN, vol. 48, p. 716 as reported in Emerg. Med. After Abortion-Abscess, vol. 19, no. 4, Apr. 1977
Infection in the womb and tubes often does permanent damage. The Fallopian tube is a fragile organ, a very tiny bore tube. If infection injures it, it often seals shut. The typical infection involving these organs is pelvic inflammatory disease (PID).
Patients with Chlamydia Trachomatous infection of the cervix (13% in this series) who get induced abortion “run a 23% risk of developing PID.” E. Quigstad et al., British Jour. of Venereal Disease, June 1982, p. 182
“Pelvic Inflammatory Disease (PID) is difficult to manage and often leads to infertility, even with prompt treatment . . . Approximately 10% of women will develop tubal adhesions leading to infertility after one episode of PID, 30% after two episodes, and more than 60% after three episodes.” M. Spence, “PID: Detection & Treatment,” Sexually Transmitted Disease Bulletin, John Hopkins Univ., vol. 3, no. 1, Feb. 1983
Bleeding is common also and is not reported or associated as a direct result of an abortion even though it occurs from the proceedure. While most abortions are done in “clinics” there is no competency to perform blood transfusions so the patient is rushed to a nearby hospital for a transfusion.
Viral hepatitis is transmitted in up to 10% of patients transfused. Ten percent of 16,000 is 1,600 women. Amer. Assn. Blood Banks and Amer. Red Cross, Circular Information, 1984, p. 6
Quick glance of risks with abortion: Russian Roulette?
25.5% post abortive women experience complications
Infection – 5.2% 1st Trimester, 18.5% mid trimester-Burkman et al., “Culture and Treatment Results in Endometritis Following Elective Abortion,” Amer. Jour. OB/GYN, vol. 128, no. 5, 1977, pp. 556-559.)
“Acute inflammatory conditions occur in 5% of the cases, whereas permanent complications such as chronic inflammatory conditions of the female organs, sterility, and ectopic [tubal] pregnancies are registered in 20-30% of all women . . . these are definitely higher in primigravidas [aborted for first pregnancy].”Kodasek, “Artificial Termination of Pregnancy in Czechoslovakia,” Internat’l Jour. GYN/OB, vol. 9, no. 3, 1971
Chlamydia Trachomatous infection of the cervix – 13%
Pelvic inflammatory disease (PID)- 23% may lead to infertility also even after prompt treatment E. Quigstad et al., British Jour. of Venereal Disease, June 1982, p. 182
Tubal Adhesions Leading to Infertility
After one abortion = 10% Two abortions = 30% and Three or more = 60% +
M. Spence, “PID: Detection & Treatment,” Sexually Transmitted Disease Bulletin, John Hopkins Univ., vol. 3, no. 1, Feb. 1983
Hemorrage -1%,Transfusions = 9.5% hepatitus from transfusions = 10% Amer. Assn. Blood Banks and Amer. Red Cross, Circular Information, 1984, p. 6
Uterine preforation 3.6% after 15 weeks gestation, 1.2% @ eight weeks
Embolism (floating objects in the blood that go to the lungs) “Also, amniotic fluid embolism has “emerged as an important cause of death from legally induced abortion.” Of 15 cases, the risk seems to be greater after three months. Treatment is ineffective.” R. Guidotti et al., Amer. Jour. OB/GYN, vol. 41, 1981, p. 257 153
80% mortality rate. S. Clark, Amniotic Fluid Embolism, the Female Patient, vol. 14, Aug. ’89, p. 50
“Eighty-seven percent (87%) of 486 obstetricians and gynecologists had to hospitalize at least one patient this year due to complications of legal abortions.” M. Bulfin, M.D., OB-GYN Observer, Oct.-Nov. 1975.
Future Pre-term Deliveries – One abortion = 1.89% Two Abortions = 2.66%
Miscarriages – One abortion – 48% complications, Two Abortions – 66% Cervical damage increases miscarriages and problematic pregnancy from 400% -500% (The Elliot Institute)
Death – 4 times more likely to die the following year than women who gave birth.
7 times more likely to die from suicide
60 % more likely to die of “natural causes”
(The Elliot Institute)